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		<title>By: Liz Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 02:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t time to read all yet, but will, as strangely &#039;led&#039; to your site from &#039;hedgehog&quot; page, after looking up West Wick in Wiltshire re my own family history earlier tonight, then looking it up on Google Earth satellite map.  Realized it wasn&#039;t far from Stonehenge, and took my first look at that as aerial view and had the oddest impression that I was looking at a piece of art, meant to be seen from the air, in the form of a hedgehog! curled up.   So then I looked up &#039;hedgehog Stonehenge&#039; to see if anyone else had made that link, only to be stunned to find the article on the carved &#039;toy&#039; found there!  Hence finding my way to your article.  Prickliness aspect may relate to the Lord of Vegetation, as depicted in the story told by Credo Mutwa, the Zulu sangoma and sanusi.  Sang-oma links to the Sumerian/Akkadian &#039;Sang = Blood, so &#039;priest/priestess of the blood?  Courtesy of John Allegro.  I began as a transmitter of poetry many years ago, then found &#039;The White Goddess&#039; just before I came back &#039;home&#039; to the British Isles and then found Harold Bayley&#039;s work and J.F. Hewitt&#039;s, though Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell. Gave a good foundation long before.  Many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t time to read all yet, but will, as strangely &#8216;led&#8217; to your site from &#8216;hedgehog&#8221; page, after looking up West Wick in Wiltshire re my own family history earlier tonight, then looking it up on Google Earth satellite map.  Realized it wasn&#8217;t far from Stonehenge, and took my first look at that as aerial view and had the oddest impression that I was looking at a piece of art, meant to be seen from the air, in the form of a hedgehog! curled up.   So then I looked up &#8216;hedgehog Stonehenge&#8217; to see if anyone else had made that link, only to be stunned to find the article on the carved &#8216;toy&#8217; found there!  Hence finding my way to your article.  Prickliness aspect may relate to the Lord of Vegetation, as depicted in the story told by Credo Mutwa, the Zulu sangoma and sanusi.  Sang-oma links to the Sumerian/Akkadian &#8216;Sang = Blood, so &#8216;priest/priestess of the blood?  Courtesy of John Allegro.  I began as a transmitter of poetry many years ago, then found &#8216;The White Goddess&#8217; just before I came back &#8216;home&#8217; to the British Isles and then found Harold Bayley&#8217;s work and J.F. Hewitt&#8217;s, though Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell. Gave a good foundation long before.  Many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: cithara</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robin Melrose</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dennis Price,

I have just read your fascinating posts on the lost city of Apollo, and on the Druids. Your theory on the antiquity of the Druids resonated with me, because not long ago I came to the conclusion that the people of Stonehenge probably spoke an archaic dialect of Indo-European which came with the Beaker people. I came to this conclusion for much the same reasons as you (traces of archaic Indo-European in names), and also because it seems a number of archaic Indo-European dialects survived into Roman times (e.g. Lusitanian, Ligurian). I was initially more resistant to the lost city of Apollo theory, but the more I read it, the more it began to convince me. Then I wondered about the name of the kings and supervisors, Boreades. At first I thought it was just based on Boreas the north wind, but then, being a retired lecturer in linguistics,  I dug a little deeper. Boreas also means devourer, but that seemed irrelevant. There is a Gaulish god called Borvo, whose name is associated with an Indo-European root meaning &#039;boil, bubble, brew&#039;, but again I couldn&#039;t see the connection. Then I started pursuing an idea that the people of Stonehenge, having started out as metal-workers, probably gained all their power and prestige from bronze and the copper/tin trade, at least until things started going bad in the Mediterranean with the Sea Peoples and the collapse of Mycenae and the Hittite Empire. So I looked at the etymology of &#039;bronze&#039;, which was irrelevant, but discovered that in times past, bronze was called &#039;brass&#039;. It turns out that &#039;brass&#039; has no known etymology, and no Indo-European cognate&#039;. The dictionary suggests French  &#039;brasser&#039; (brew) as a possible source, so I checked on &#039;brew&#039;, which brings us to the proto-Indo-European *bhreue- &quot;to bubble, boil, effervesce&quot; (Borvo again!). So were the Boreads, in the archaic Indo-European dialect of the Stonehenge people, the people who &quot;boiled metal&quot;? If they were smelters of &quot;brass&quot;, this would explain their injunctions against collecting selago with iron. 
One more thing. This has probably been suggested already, but does Amesbury have anything to do with &#039;ambrosia&#039; (=immortal), and could Ambrosius Aurelianus (=golden immortal) be a memory of the sun god?

Best wishes,
Robin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dennis Price,</p>
<p>I have just read your fascinating posts on the lost city of Apollo, and on the Druids. Your theory on the antiquity of the Druids resonated with me, because not long ago I came to the conclusion that the people of Stonehenge probably spoke an archaic dialect of Indo-European which came with the Beaker people. I came to this conclusion for much the same reasons as you (traces of archaic Indo-European in names), and also because it seems a number of archaic Indo-European dialects survived into Roman times (e.g. Lusitanian, Ligurian). I was initially more resistant to the lost city of Apollo theory, but the more I read it, the more it began to convince me. Then I wondered about the name of the kings and supervisors, Boreades. At first I thought it was just based on Boreas the north wind, but then, being a retired lecturer in linguistics,  I dug a little deeper. Boreas also means devourer, but that seemed irrelevant. There is a Gaulish god called Borvo, whose name is associated with an Indo-European root meaning &#8216;boil, bubble, brew&#8217;, but again I couldn&#8217;t see the connection. Then I started pursuing an idea that the people of Stonehenge, having started out as metal-workers, probably gained all their power and prestige from bronze and the copper/tin trade, at least until things started going bad in the Mediterranean with the Sea Peoples and the collapse of Mycenae and the Hittite Empire. So I looked at the etymology of &#8216;bronze&#8217;, which was irrelevant, but discovered that in times past, bronze was called &#8216;brass&#8217;. It turns out that &#8216;brass&#8217; has no known etymology, and no Indo-European cognate&#8217;. The dictionary suggests French  &#8216;brasser&#8217; (brew) as a possible source, so I checked on &#8216;brew&#8217;, which brings us to the proto-Indo-European *bhreue- &#8220;to bubble, boil, effervesce&#8221; (Borvo again!). So were the Boreads, in the archaic Indo-European dialect of the Stonehenge people, the people who &#8220;boiled metal&#8221;? If they were smelters of &#8220;brass&#8221;, this would explain their injunctions against collecting selago with iron.<br />
One more thing. This has probably been suggested already, but does Amesbury have anything to do with &#8216;ambrosia&#8217; (=immortal), and could Ambrosius Aurelianus (=golden immortal) be a memory of the sun god?</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Robin</p>
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		<title>By: gemma clery</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemma clery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hail and greeting
        I have arrived here via google having typed in the words ancient greek references to Stonehenge, because I have read many many years ago an ancient greek writer had spoken of the Temple of Apollo in the land of the hypoboreans, only I couldn&#039;t remember who, and this burst of activity was prompted by the Timewatch programme I&#039;ve just seen, and my strong desire to protest about so many aspects of it. Given this medium I thought it was best to sort out just one asumption - because that&#039;s what they are, the word could means just that, and after every bit of admittedly very interesting solid empirical science, this chap had a bad knee, and what&#039;s more he came all the way from Switzerland, and so. probably did his whole family, we were treated to an awful lot of coulds, and even worse, statements of apparent facts - it was really dangerous in those days for people to travel outside their own area, [which flatly contradicts the tooth and bone analysis evidence, the guy was there after all ] and they didn&#039;t have roads in those days, oh yes they did, they could try reading the Old Straight Track a sober work of Victorian scholarship, I bet the University library could get hold of it -  the assumption that Stonehenge is a marker for the Winter not the Summer solstice. 
          Apollo plainly is the sun god. If you were talking about a place where Apollo was honoured, what would you choose - a place constructed for the lowest part of his cycle, or the highest ? If an ancient greek referred to this far away northern land and its temple why would he pick Apollo the sun god unless that was indeed the dedication or orientation of the place - he would have had the whole greek pantheon to choose from. And why would folk memory, myth, and native knowledge have made Stonehenge a place where</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hail and greeting<br />
        I have arrived here via google having typed in the words ancient greek references to Stonehenge, because I have read many many years ago an ancient greek writer had spoken of the Temple of Apollo in the land of the hypoboreans, only I couldn&#8217;t remember who, and this burst of activity was prompted by the Timewatch programme I&#8217;ve just seen, and my strong desire to protest about so many aspects of it. Given this medium I thought it was best to sort out just one asumption &#8211; because that&#8217;s what they are, the word could means just that, and after every bit of admittedly very interesting solid empirical science, this chap had a bad knee, and what&#8217;s more he came all the way from Switzerland, and so. probably did his whole family, we were treated to an awful lot of coulds, and even worse, statements of apparent facts &#8211; it was really dangerous in those days for people to travel outside their own area, [which flatly contradicts the tooth and bone analysis evidence, the guy was there after all ] and they didn&#8217;t have roads in those days, oh yes they did, they could try reading the Old Straight Track a sober work of Victorian scholarship, I bet the University library could get hold of it &#8211;  the assumption that Stonehenge is a marker for the Winter not the Summer solstice.<br />
          Apollo plainly is the sun god. If you were talking about a place where Apollo was honoured, what would you choose &#8211; a place constructed for the lowest part of his cycle, or the highest ? If an ancient greek referred to this far away northern land and its temple why would he pick Apollo the sun god unless that was indeed the dedication or orientation of the place &#8211; he would have had the whole greek pantheon to choose from. And why would folk memory, myth, and native knowledge have made Stonehenge a place where</p>
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		<title>By: HighschoolKid</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is your full name Dennis? I just need it so I can properly quote this website for LA. Thanks.

Kid over there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is your full name Dennis? I just need it so I can properly quote this website for LA. Thanks.</p>
<p>Kid over there</p>
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		<title>By: oldnumberseven</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 04:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might check out a book called &#039;The White Goddess&#039; by Robert Graves.  I think he might agree with you.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Urmuf,

Thanks very much for writing in, while I&#039;m flattered that you thought that what I had to say was worth the trouble of writing and posting an executive summary. You&#039;ve got a good point here, so I&#039;ll spell out my position.

I&#039;m only interested in the truth about Stonehenge and I honestly don&#039;t have any dogmatic points of view about the place. If it turns out that I&#039;m right about something - great. However, if I&#039;m wrong, then anyone&#039;s free to write in and point out my mistakes in public, as they have done before now.

Other than that, there&#039;s the issue of the length of some of the posts I put up. When I was a kid, I used to bury myself in books, so if I came across one such as Gods, Graves and Scholars that went into enormous detail about something I was particularly interested in, then I just couldn&#039;t be happier. While I write and do my studies for the pleasure of it, I presume that &quot;out there somewhere&quot; are others who enjoy reading similar degrees of detail, so what I write is primarily for them, whoever they may be and whatever they may think of my conclusions.

As you might have seen, I&#039;ve just posted up a second lengthy story about Pytheas, but there are two and possibly three more such entries to come. I&#039;ve come across &quot;nameless others&quot; in my time who hold strong opinions on Stonehenge, but when I politely asked them for something to back up their assertions, they stared at me as if I were a cretin and snarled, &quot;It&#039;s obvious, innit? It&#039;s SPIRITUAL!!!&quot; or some variant on the same theme. If I&#039;m saying that I know where Pytheas&#039; City of Apollo was, then I&#039;m honour-bound to back this claim up with every piece of credible evidence that I can possibly muster.

Anyway, back to the Lost City of Apollo, Part ye Third....

Thanks again and best wishes from

Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Urmuf,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for writing in, while I&#8217;m flattered that you thought that what I had to say was worth the trouble of writing and posting an executive summary. You&#8217;ve got a good point here, so I&#8217;ll spell out my position.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only interested in the truth about Stonehenge and I honestly don&#8217;t have any dogmatic points of view about the place. If it turns out that I&#8217;m right about something &#8211; great. However, if I&#8217;m wrong, then anyone&#8217;s free to write in and point out my mistakes in public, as they have done before now.</p>
<p>Other than that, there&#8217;s the issue of the length of some of the posts I put up. When I was a kid, I used to bury myself in books, so if I came across one such as Gods, Graves and Scholars that went into enormous detail about something I was particularly interested in, then I just couldn&#8217;t be happier. While I write and do my studies for the pleasure of it, I presume that &#8220;out there somewhere&#8221; are others who enjoy reading similar degrees of detail, so what I write is primarily for them, whoever they may be and whatever they may think of my conclusions.</p>
<p>As you might have seen, I&#8217;ve just posted up a second lengthy story about Pytheas, but there are two and possibly three more such entries to come. I&#8217;ve come across &#8220;nameless others&#8221; in my time who hold strong opinions on Stonehenge, but when I politely asked them for something to back up their assertions, they stared at me as if I were a cretin and snarled, &#8220;It&#8217;s obvious, innit? It&#8217;s SPIRITUAL!!!&#8221; or some variant on the same theme. If I&#8217;m saying that I know where Pytheas&#8217; City of Apollo was, then I&#8217;m honour-bound to back this claim up with every piece of credible evidence that I can possibly muster.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the Lost City of Apollo, Part ye Third&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks again and best wishes from</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Matt,

Thank you very much for writing in and thank you for your kind words, as they&#039;re much appreciated. As long as it was well worth the read, regardless of whether you agree with me or not, that&#039;s all that matters.

I remember reading about Bruce&#039;s idea some years back and I like to think that I&#039;m open-minded about Stonehenge. However, I seem to remember that a fairly pivotal part of his concept was that the Y and Z holes had once held bluestones or some other stones, but from everything I&#039;ve read about these pits, it seems pretty certain that they never held stones of any kind. Anyway, I&#039;ll look into it again and thanks for writing in.

Best wishes from

Dennis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Matt,</p>
<p>Thank you very much for writing in and thank you for your kind words, as they&#8217;re much appreciated. As long as it was well worth the read, regardless of whether you agree with me or not, that&#8217;s all that matters.</p>
<p>I remember reading about Bruce&#8217;s idea some years back and I like to think that I&#8217;m open-minded about Stonehenge. However, I seem to remember that a fairly pivotal part of his concept was that the Y and Z holes had once held bluestones or some other stones, but from everything I&#8217;ve read about these pits, it seems pretty certain that they never held stones of any kind. Anyway, I&#8217;ll look into it again and thanks for writing in.</p>
<p>Best wishes from</p>
<p>Dennis</p>
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		<title>By: Urmuf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urmuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi- WRT an executive summary -  check out the post by Entity79
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi- WRT an executive summary &#8211;  check out the post by Entity79<br />
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis and an intruiging idea.  Well worth the read.  Might be interesting to see if Bruce Bedlams idea about a roof for Stonehenge might lend a more spherical shape to a temple....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=463332&amp;in_page_id=1770</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis and an intruiging idea.  Well worth the read.  Might be interesting to see if Bruce Bedlams idea about a roof for Stonehenge might lend a more spherical shape to a temple&#8230;.</p>
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